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I use all of Opera and never use anything else unless it's absolutely necessary because of a badly designed webpage, for example

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I use all of Opera except the mail client --- I use a different email client

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I use all of Opera except the IRC chat client ---- I use a different IRC chat client

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I think Opera's integration of:

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The fact that Opera integrates these functions so well makes Opera appealing, indeed.

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With that said, individual components when compared to the competition may/may not compare favorably depending on one's needs/taste/etc.

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So, I ask which components of Opera do you use to the exclusion of using something other than Opera for browsing, mailing, etc.?

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For example, I find myself delving into Thunderbird and/or Pegasus for emailing for HTML composition purposes and a few other less weighty reasons, at times.

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So, again, what core components of Opera do you use virtually exclusively?

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The one thing I miss in Opera's otherwise impressive array of features is a Calendar functionality integrated with Contacts -- that way I could save more personal data for contacts (such as birthdays -- with reminders), and also use it for keeping track of appointments etc.

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Does viewing images with Irfanview and using a sanitized DAPPro for downloads count as not using Opera for everything? 'Cause I use it for everything else web-related.

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I agree with neeraj_deshmukh. I use Nokia 6600 and would love to synchronize with Opera.

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Voted "I use all of Opera and never use anything else unless it's absolutely necessary because of a badly designed webpage, for example"

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Plus I like the modularity, for instance I dislike Eudora 6.x, so I'm not forced to upgrade. If I was using Opera though, and I had liked mail in 6.x, and didn't like M2... but liked the browser upgrades in 7.x ... what would I have done? I'd have still ended up with 2 different programs.

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I only use opera as a browser. I never use IRC, RSS, newsgroups and the rest of it, so I have no need for them. I would have loved to use opera mail but I am too used to the standard way of doing mail and don't have the time or patience to figure out how opera mail works. 

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